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if you want proof of that, look at the toll it took on john paul ii and how his final months played out. look at the fact that benedict xvi has confessed to the world that it was too much for him to go on. that said, there's certainly tensions among the cardinals about what the core issues are facing the church and who the right man would be to lead the church forward. there are different currents, different scoots of thought and the clash between those currents is playing out in ways large and small. you can see this in the interviews, for example, cardinals are giving in these days. some of them are saying somewhat contrasting things. some are talking about the need for a missionary pope who can be a salesman for the church. others are talking about the need for a stronger governor. some are talking about the desirability of a pope from the developing world. others are talking about the need to make sure you have someone who can engage secularisim in the west. so it's playing out in that arena. even more and in a fashion that's even more frank and direct and blunt it is playing out as
if you want proof of that, look at the toll it took on john paul ii and how his final months played out. look at the fact that benedict xvi has confessed to the world that it was too much for him to go on. that said, there's certainly tensions among the cardinals about what the core issues are facing the church and who the right man would be to lead the church forward. there are different currents, different scoots of thought and the clash between those currents is playing out in ways large and...
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john paul helped him through that. >> i sort of had a meltdown and right at that moment he comes out of his apartment and he noticed and he reached out to me and he thanked me for being there and he gave me courage. >> reporter: what were you doing? were you crying? >> yeah. >> reporter: you were? >> i stopped crying but he in theed my red eyes. >> reporter: as for what's to come, the top job isn't what we think. >> the pope is the end of your life. you have to give up all privacy. you're basically locked in. you can't go where you want to go. you lose your friends, you lose your family. you're a prisoner. not one cardinal wants to be pope. >> reporter: he didn't want to be pope? >> no way. he wanted to go back home and write books. they are walking into the assistant chapel like this. don't make eye contact. >> reporter: really? >> nobody wants to be pope. >> reporter: i asked widmer about the so called vatileaks and the reports of sexual scandals and mismanagements which the vatican has denied, i asked him whether that might have are driven pope benedict out and he said no. benedic
john paul helped him through that. >> i sort of had a meltdown and right at that moment he comes out of his apartment and he noticed and he reached out to me and he thanked me for being there and he gave me courage. >> reporter: what were you doing? were you crying? >> yeah. >> reporter: you were? >> i stopped crying but he in theed my red eyes. >> reporter: as for what's to come, the top job isn't what we think. >> the pope is the end of your life. you...
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benedict xvi had are reputation for being more consived than john paul 2nd. many say he is more scholarly. and sought to return the church to its roots and left a church reeling with sex scandals and declipping numbers. what else are experts saying about the legacy? >> well, he led the catholic church, of course, for seven years, ten months, and nine days, in total. a not insignificant time. experts all say he will be seen as a transitional rather than a transformational pope. that is not to say some of his actions weren't significant, though. for instance, they say that his outreach to the muslim world, including visiting the blue mosque in turkey, was a very significant action, and, according to greg tobin, he was the first pope to truly face up to see sex abuse scandal. listen. >> he will bled as someone who did more than anyone else before him, that's foresheet. john paul ii left a legacy of inaction and avoidance, and benedict faced it head on and before he became pope he was aware of many of these cases, and he also engaged in a personal outreach to vic
benedict xvi had are reputation for being more consived than john paul 2nd. many say he is more scholarly. and sought to return the church to its roots and left a church reeling with sex scandals and declipping numbers. what else are experts saying about the legacy? >> well, he led the catholic church, of course, for seven years, ten months, and nine days, in total. a not insignificant time. experts all say he will be seen as a transitional rather than a transformational pope. that is not...
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paul the second his predecessor did so amazingly well he really was not that successful and of course the is lack of administrative skills really you know resulted in all of these crises and scandals and just kind of fed on one thing or another i think is the greatest legacy may really be resigning being the first pope to resign in six hundred years as a brave to do that. he really was i mean here is kind of a nixon to china movie if any of you can remember that reference i mean here is this most orthodox and traditional of hopes of churchmen doing something very radical really i mean the papacy was something that you you took on like as they said like christ going up on the cross something you didn't till you died you just didn't step down it was almost a quality divine kind of an office and by by resigning saying look i'm just not up to doing this job i'm not up to dealing with all these scandals on the to being the evangelizer the that the church needs the pope has kind of reduced the papacy kind of demystified it which i think most people would agree is a good thing he's what he's
paul the second his predecessor did so amazingly well he really was not that successful and of course the is lack of administrative skills really you know resulted in all of these crises and scandals and just kind of fed on one thing or another i think is the greatest legacy may really be resigning being the first pope to resign in six hundred years as a brave to do that. he really was i mean here is kind of a nixon to china movie if any of you can remember that reference i mean here is this...
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he goes on short walks, but he unlike john paul ii was not for long hikes. >> thank you very much. here in the united states, american catholics are divided on the future of their church. catholi catholic split from what they want. 46% want change and the pape as tow go in a new direction. 51% said stay traditional. live from new york is the host of the busted halo show on the catholic channel on sirius fm. welcome. as we were pointing out potential next popes, me three things you want to see in this next leader. >> because we refer to the hope as the vicker of christ, the epicentative of our lord jesus christ on earth, he has to be a man who reminds us of our lord jesus. can you say sure, a lot of believers do that. you don't have to be the pope to do that, but to show the compassion and the love and the mercy of jesus christ is one. another would be at this time in our church's history, we need a unifier. there is a lot of division not only around the world, not only here in the united states, but even within the burocracy of the workings of the vatican. we heard that a lot. will
he goes on short walks, but he unlike john paul ii was not for long hikes. >> thank you very much. here in the united states, american catholics are divided on the future of their church. catholi catholic split from what they want. 46% want change and the pape as tow go in a new direction. 51% said stay traditional. live from new york is the host of the busted halo show on the catholic channel on sirius fm. welcome. as we were pointing out potential next popes, me three things you want to...
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he became pope after john paul ii died, but he never seemed to enjoy it the way john paul ii did, who was an actor. benedict is a scholar, a theologian, an intellectual, and today you could see the humility that those who know him very well say have always marked this 85-year-old man. >> certainly describing himself as a pilgrim is really extraordinary, and you get the feeling that the crowd, the audiences were responding to him in an emotional way that they hadn't previously. that i guess it's the moment the history, but also the sadness. i mean, this is a very bittersweet moment. >> well, it's -- it is. that's exactly the way to describe it. you know, it's interesting in st. peters square, they had the big jumbotrons out there, and people were gathered around and were actually silent in st. peters square watching what happened, and the last time i heard that kind of silence in st. peters square it was when they announced the death of john paul ii. you never heard a cell phone go off. you never heard anybody have a cell phone conversation, and on the in st. peters square where the he
he became pope after john paul ii died, but he never seemed to enjoy it the way john paul ii did, who was an actor. benedict is a scholar, a theologian, an intellectual, and today you could see the humility that those who know him very well say have always marked this 85-year-old man. >> certainly describing himself as a pilgrim is really extraordinary, and you get the feeling that the crowd, the audiences were responding to him in an emotional way that they hadn't previously. that i...
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paul ii, towards the end while he certainly gave us an example of endurance and perserverance, pope benedict xvi was watching those last years of his life and seeing important work of the church not get done and he said, i don't think, at least in these times, that the best thing for the church is to have me go through the same thing. if other people manage or mismanage what needs to be taken care of quickly and well. >> megyn: as we watch the castle, what we understand is going to happen at 2 p.m. eastern time the swiss guard is going to walk away, just walk away, signaling that we no longer have a pope because they're the ones charged with protecting our pope and have been for 500 years, is that what is going to happen? >> that is true. and very colorful, i can't see the images right now, but if you're seeing the swiss guard who protect the pope, those uniforms were made by michelangelo, a great tradition and they said, not only do we protect the pope, but eonly protect the pope, therefore if this ere's no pope we're leaving. and the fisherman's ring will be taken off and smashed.
paul ii, towards the end while he certainly gave us an example of endurance and perserverance, pope benedict xvi was watching those last years of his life and seeing important work of the church not get done and he said, i don't think, at least in these times, that the best thing for the church is to have me go through the same thing. if other people manage or mismanage what needs to be taken care of quickly and well. >> megyn: as we watch the castle, what we understand is going to happen...
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virtually all these cardinals who are picked either by pope benedict or by pope john paul, i believe, somebody correct me if i'm wrong, the average age is somewhere in the 70s, low 70s. there aren't if to really drive your metaphor into the ground, a lot of blue state sort of cardinals in that list, and so there are not a lot of obviously progressive candidates on the list of potential popes. i don't think progressive conservative, however, is the right optic. i think the real question is when you get someone elected who actually is open to change and dialogue on some of these issues, on the all male celibate priesthood, if not on women priests. birth control is kind of a separate issue. the church ares until this contraception fight over the obama plan, really hasn't preached very much about it. it's not only the faithful who let it go. it's really the church itself who sort of accept that. there just aren't a lot of catholic families of 12 kids anymore in most of the west, and increasingly, not in the third world either. >> e.j., i want to bring in our panel here in new york, and be
virtually all these cardinals who are picked either by pope benedict or by pope john paul, i believe, somebody correct me if i'm wrong, the average age is somewhere in the 70s, low 70s. there aren't if to really drive your metaphor into the ground, a lot of blue state sort of cardinals in that list, and so there are not a lot of obviously progressive candidates on the list of potential popes. i don't think progressive conservative, however, is the right optic. i think the real question is when...
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because just as when john paul ii was sick and dying nobody was talking about the next pope, but now we just saw the helicopter leave the vatican. that was pope benedict's way of saying, now i'm out of the picture, now you do your jobs. if you wer he were still in the vatican or behind the vatican walls in some other apartment that they would be a little bit cautious in talking about in straight talk what is needed for the church. that is about to begin. jon: the helicopter on its way to castle gandolfo. we understand that the pope willee ph*erpblg, hwill emerge. he will make some statements or issue a greeting to the people of castle gandolfo, which is also the name of the village there. he will -- >> that's right. jon: from a window there in the quarters at the summer residence he will issue some kind of a greeting to the people of castle gandolfo. then at exactly 8:00pm, which is 2:00pm eastern time in this country, 11:00am on the west coast a bell will ring and a sergeant of the swiss guard will order the guard on-duty to leave his po*erbgs and a post and at that point the massiv
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will he be on the order of a john the xxiii, will it be a john paul ii who knew how to deal geo politically with the modern world in terms of poland and the communist world at the same time dealing with the internal problems of the church. and yet, we're also seeing ancient tradition here. as well as an ancient pope who was unable to perform as he had hoped. >> we see that final wave, it seems, from pope benedict and those who have been so close to him over the eight years of his papacy and the applause by, again, members of his household and he is giving them his blessing and you see on his right hand, the fisherman's ring, it is cast for each and every pope, and when they cease to be pope, as he will at 2:00 this afternoon eastern time, and you see that traditional kissing of the ring, it will be taken and a silver hammer will be taken to it and it will be destroyed because that is also the papal seal. so this extraordinary moment in history, using the former joseph ratzinger who will be within hours be pope emeritus, getting into the car for this short ride to the helipad leaving the gro
will he be on the order of a john the xxiii, will it be a john paul ii who knew how to deal geo politically with the modern world in terms of poland and the communist world at the same time dealing with the internal problems of the church. and yet, we're also seeing ancient tradition here. as well as an ancient pope who was unable to perform as he had hoped. >> we see that final wave, it seems, from pope benedict and those who have been so close to him over the eight years of his papacy...
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you know john paul ii's greatest gift was his serenity in suffering. that was the greatest pulpit he ever prepared from. i believe humility is the greatest pulpit that benedict xvi has prepared from. he said to me once benedict things done with humility have the lasting effect have the greatest lasting effect. i believe he knows that in his heart. a courageous, novel decision but he's taken it also strategically in order that we are given a good pope to lead us now into the future. it's a sad moment for us but we now look forward to a new holy father. >> monseigneur anthony figuerdo director of the north american pontifical college. thank you very much, monseigneur. it is coming up on 6:00 p.m. in rome. we saw a beautiful shot of the sun setting in castel gandolfo. we see the long shadows of the early evening coming across st. peter's square. nor norah, i wonder as you watched this for the first time in 600 years, it was an amazing moment in history, what did you think as you thought of this pope leaving the papacy. >> incredibly historic. it was a sho
you know john paul ii's greatest gift was his serenity in suffering. that was the greatest pulpit he ever prepared from. i believe humility is the greatest pulpit that benedict xvi has prepared from. he said to me once benedict things done with humility have the lasting effect have the greatest lasting effect. i believe he knows that in his heart. a courageous, novel decision but he's taken it also strategically in order that we are given a good pope to lead us now into the future. it's a sad...
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>> sort of like john paul, i have run the race. you know, you get very much the sense of that, he's run the race or carried the cross. i think the timing of the pope's decision is also interesting. now in probably new folk by the time of holy week, very symbolic he's carried the cross to where he can. he said, i'm not abandoning, but obviously, somebody else's job to pick up the cross. >> for those of us with us this morning, we are witnessing history. you see the beautiful castel gandolfo. this is the place where pope benedict xvi will spend the next few months. but he will be pope for not much longer. just a few hours until the sede vacante is under way. we want to give our thanks to father barron and greg burke and george weigel.we'll have more. '. but first this is "today" on nbc. >>> welcome back. 8:46 with an interesting new way for you to get dinner on the table. >> erica hill is here with more on that. >> hi, nice to see you. i heard about this, this is a little strange. it's a food sharing service developed out of the phil
>> sort of like john paul, i have run the race. you know, you get very much the sense of that, he's run the race or carried the cross. i think the timing of the pope's decision is also interesting. now in probably new folk by the time of holy week, very symbolic he's carried the cross to where he can. he said, i'm not abandoning, but obviously, somebody else's job to pick up the cross. >> for those of us with us this morning, we are witnessing history. you see the beautiful castel...
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most recently, pope john paul. before the body is moved across st. peter's square to the basilica. unlike all of the past popes whose reign ended in this room, benedict is the first to leave office still breathing. like a king, attending his own funeral. today, the dean of the college of cardinals thanked him for his service. benedict stood up and embraced him. the pope wasn't expected to speak, but he did. saying, among you is also the future pope, to whom i pledge my unconditional reverence and obedience. that hasn't been an issue for 600 years. today, vatican cameras will follow benedict's departure, minute-by-minute. 19 cameras documenting his trip, live. every angle covered, from his final wave at st. peter's. they'll be there with him on the helicopter, as he flies to castel gandolfo. there, he'll greet the faithful one last time from the balcony. and then, tonight at 8:00 p.m., the swiss guard will leave and the gates will close. symbolically signaling that benedict is no longer pope. so, who is actually in charge in the interim? the papal camalango is in state. we're sure i
most recently, pope john paul. before the body is moved across st. peter's square to the basilica. unlike all of the past popes whose reign ended in this room, benedict is the first to leave office still breathing. like a king, attending his own funeral. today, the dean of the college of cardinals thanked him for his service. benedict stood up and embraced him. the pope wasn't expected to speak, but he did. saying, among you is also the future pope, to whom i pledge my unconditional reverence...
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i really liked pope john paul ii. i feel like he had a great direction and realizing the church is a modern era and we're not where we were thousands of years ago. >> reporter: and that's pretty much the gist of the people that we talked to. they want to see a pope who is kind of similar to pope john paul ii. very popular. they say this is a great opportunity for the church to kind of see where it moves forward from here. not sure how many will attend the mass here. but several school kids from saint bridge's school nearby are attending mass about 50 of them. you can see the beautiful church here. a lot of people started to file in about ten minutes ago. if you can't attend the mass here, there's also a mass in san jose at st. joseph sea basilica out there in san jose. we're live in san francisco, brian flores, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:08. santa cruz police officers are going back to work today after mourn, the loss of two veteran -- mourning the loss of two veteran deaths. we're learning more on how the deadly enco
i really liked pope john paul ii. i feel like he had a great direction and realizing the church is a modern era and we're not where we were thousands of years ago. >> reporter: and that's pretty much the gist of the people that we talked to. they want to see a pope who is kind of similar to pope john paul ii. very popular. they say this is a great opportunity for the church to kind of see where it moves forward from here. not sure how many will attend the mass here. but several school...
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john paul the ii was the man of the camera, the man of the public. pope benedict and his own personality, while accepting the responsibility is more at ease in quiet and peace. he'll continue to write. he told the cardinals today this was fascinating, keep writing to me, i will have communication with you. but notice it's by mail. he's not going to be making public statements. a real life changer and for me personally it's a call never to want power for your own sake or authority but rather to serve. that's what we got into this for in the first place. bill: you mentioned the comparison to his predecessor and you always got the impression that pope john paul ii loved the job, and loved to let people know that he loved the job. you really go never really got that from pope benedict the xvi. we just want to drop in here and see if we can pick up anything inside the apostolic palace at the vat kin. vavat tavatican. >> sure. [applause] [applause] [applause] [applause] bill: even the headline itself is still stunning. we are watching a pope retire. martha
john paul the ii was the man of the camera, the man of the public. pope benedict and his own personality, while accepting the responsibility is more at ease in quiet and peace. he'll continue to write. he told the cardinals today this was fascinating, keep writing to me, i will have communication with you. but notice it's by mail. he's not going to be making public statements. a real life changer and for me personally it's a call never to want power for your own sake or authority but rather to...
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last time was very different because the papacy of john paul ii was so long. this time it's going to be a little different. the history of how this conclave will play out will be all new. >> john allen, can you hear me from rome? >> reporter: yes, i can. >> all right, john, great. great to have you. by the way, in case you didn't hear it for yourself, cardinal dolan gave you a shoutout in his interview, saying that you were closest to what the reckonings -- >> i agree with your assessment, it was a fantastic interview. >> he was spot-on about that, we know that much. john, let me ask you. the obvious intrigue is of course this is different what's happening with pope benedict, not since 600 years, but how do you think that may translate and how this process will be different. how will the difference carry through to the general congregations, the conclave, the choice. is this going to be new in many different ways? >> reporter: yeah, i've actually done a column for the paper laying out ten different ways that this thing is in contrast to the last conclave in 20
last time was very different because the papacy of john paul ii was so long. this time it's going to be a little different. the history of how this conclave will play out will be all new. >> john allen, can you hear me from rome? >> reporter: yes, i can. >> all right, john, great. great to have you. by the way, in case you didn't hear it for yourself, cardinal dolan gave you a shoutout in his interview, saying that you were closest to what the reckonings -- >> i agree...
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. >> reporter: pope benedict, who was elected in 2005 after the death of pope john paul ii, said he is leaving because he is growing too old and frail. cardinals hope to elect a pope in time for the holy week of easter which is now just a few weeks away. vinita nair, cbs news, the vatican. >> so far there's no clear front-runner as pope benedict's successor. cbs news will have a special report this morning scheduled to begin at 7:55 our time right here on kpix 5. >> reporter: it is 4:32 now. santa cruz police plan to give us some more information this morning about the murder of two of their officers. kpix 5 reporter anne makovec is down in santa cruz where they're mourning their two fallen officers this morning. >> reporter: the memorial behind me at the santa cruz police department has been growing and growing since tuesday. really a stunning display of community support for these fallen officers. now, some santa cruz police officers may be going back to work today. the police chief told them to take their time with the grieving process. in the meantime, we're hearing more details ab
. >> reporter: pope benedict, who was elected in 2005 after the death of pope john paul ii, said he is leaving because he is growing too old and frail. cardinals hope to elect a pope in time for the holy week of easter which is now just a few weeks away. vinita nair, cbs news, the vatican. >> so far there's no clear front-runner as pope benedict's successor. cbs news will have a special report this morning scheduled to begin at 7:55 our time right here on kpix 5. >> reporter:...
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. >> reporter: pope benedict who was elected in 2005 after the death of pope john paul ii says he is leaving because he's grown too old and frail. they hope to elect a pope in time for the holy week of easter, which is now just a few weeks away. one interesting tidbit, anne-marie. swiss guards will be outside of the main gates. the moment 8:00 strikes and the pope is no longer pope they'll leave and come back in anticipation of the next pontiff. >> vinita before you leave, there's more church business to begin. when does the choosing of the pontiff actually begin? >> reporter: that is a good question, what exactly are the dates. talking to the clergy here in rome, they tell us they anticipate the conclave could start on the 10th or the 11th with a pope in power by the 17th. hopefully that would be ideal. anne-marie, back to you. >> thank you very much. >>> cbs will cover the pope's departure from the vatican in a special report later this morning. >>> president obama meets with congressional leaders tomorrow, the same day those massive automatic budget cuts take effect. the fiscal st
. >> reporter: pope benedict who was elected in 2005 after the death of pope john paul ii says he is leaving because he's grown too old and frail. they hope to elect a pope in time for the holy week of easter, which is now just a few weeks away. one interesting tidbit, anne-marie. swiss guards will be outside of the main gates. the moment 8:00 strikes and the pope is no longer pope they'll leave and come back in anticipation of the next pontiff. >> vinita before you leave, there's...
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that's the comment that benedict made to john paul ii. why i'm interested in talking a bit about him is because he's so humble. when he was bishop in the philippines, he would ride his bicycle. he would encounter all the pool on the streets. he would invite the poor in his residence to eat. there's a story about a woman who was looking for her alcoholic out-of-work husband expecting to find him in the local bar, she found him in the residence with the bishop eating lunch. he spoke very vo shumbly at thet meeting that we need someone with a lot of humbleness and silence. people are saying, wow, wouldn't it be something. he's no slouch, he studied in america, summa cum laude . >> many people said it might be an opportunity to have an african as pope, and cardinal peter turksa of ghana. >> a few strikes against him, one he's already spoken about it to the press -- >> like the cia, forget it. >> he didn't say i want to be. he said basically, well, it would be a tough job but he didn't totally dismiss it. >> it's a no-no. >> it's a no-no to ta
that's the comment that benedict made to john paul ii. why i'm interested in talking a bit about him is because he's so humble. when he was bishop in the philippines, he would ride his bicycle. he would encounter all the pool on the streets. he would invite the poor in his residence to eat. there's a story about a woman who was looking for her alcoholic out-of-work husband expecting to find him in the local bar, she found him in the residence with the bishop eating lunch. he spoke very vo...
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paul ii. and the two of them in terms of dock tin were right down the -- doctrine were right down the line together. the pope is going to be one of them right? we really can't expect any major changes in the direction of the church or can we? >> well, we're certainly hoping for sister simone campbell. >> bill: she's got my voice. >> unfortunately, she's not of the right gender as per vatican rules. hopefully some day that will change. >> bill: it has to be a priest. therefore has to be a man. >> correct. >> bill: if is one of these -- we've talked before about -- and i've written about some of the things the church i think has to do something about allowing priests to get married. has to do something about allowing women to be ordained, just for starters. you know, what are the chances we'll get out of this group of 115, a pope who will go in that direction? >> i think your instincts are right that there's a lot of group think going on in the conclave. a lot of folks appointed to positions of
paul ii. and the two of them in terms of dock tin were right down the -- doctrine were right down the line together. the pope is going to be one of them right? we really can't expect any major changes in the direction of the church or can we? >> well, we're certainly hoping for sister simone campbell. >> bill: she's got my voice. >> unfortunately, she's not of the right gender as per vatican rules. hopefully some day that will change. >> bill: it has to be a priest....
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we'll head to washington and ask john harwood about the latest negotiations right after this. later this morning, a cnbc exclusive house chairman paul ryan will be joining us live at 8:00 eastern time. it's the first time we'll be talking to him since the election. first, though, take a look at yesterday's winners and losers. revolutionizing an industry can be a tough act to follow, but at xerox we've embraced a new role. working behind the scenes to provide companies with services... like...
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john paul said no, i need you here. pope john paul ii died and then he became pope. benedict is a far shyer man, he's a gentle man, he's far more than intellectual. he never sucked in the oxygen of the crowd. he at times, ren sant. since he announced his abdication, i have been struck by how much he relieved he looks. he actually ad lib when he got up there. when i looked at his prepared text. heed a lib an aline, people say that the church is declining but i see the church as alive, because that crowd was filled with enthusiasm and energy yesterday. you know, you have seen when he met with some priests here in rome about a week ago, he was supposed to deliver a speech about the second vatican -- vatican ii, he was there at the time, that happened 50 years ago. he said no, i can't do that because of my advanced age. 85 has become his excuse to be more casual if you will and he said, no, i'll sit here and chat with you. he talked with 46 minutes without a note about what went on 50 years ago. so, clearly, his mind and those who know him and those who read his writings
john paul said no, i need you here. pope john paul ii died and then he became pope. benedict is a far shyer man, he's a gentle man, he's far more than intellectual. he never sucked in the oxygen of the crowd. he at times, ren sant. since he announced his abdication, i have been struck by how much he relieved he looks. he actually ad lib when he got up there. when i looked at his prepared text. heed a lib an aline, people say that the church is declining but i see the church as alive, because...
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paul. >> somewhere in a dictionary under the word evangelist is a picture of pope john paul ii. the basic diagnosis among many cardinals about benedict's papacy is he was a magnificent teaching pope but a mixed bag as a business manager. you asked where the fault lines are. first of all, you're never going to find any one guy who perfectly incarnates all these three things so which is the most important. what do we absolutely have to have and what can we settle for less than the idea. >> in terms of management and governability of the vatican and all the church's affairs, there's been financial scandals and the sex abuse scandal we have talked about for so long. a senior brazilian cardinal acknowledged of course this is going to be on the minds of the cardinals as they elect the next pope. that this business must be finished. would you say that's accurate? >> oh, absolutely. i, of course, have been talking to cardinals since this news broke. certainly i think, again, there are different ideas and different visions. but one thing that they would be almost unanimously saying is th
paul. >> somewhere in a dictionary under the word evangelist is a picture of pope john paul ii. the basic diagnosis among many cardinals about benedict's papacy is he was a magnificent teaching pope but a mixed bag as a business manager. you asked where the fault lines are. first of all, you're never going to find any one guy who perfectly incarnates all these three things so which is the most important. what do we absolutely have to have and what can we settle for less than the idea....
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where did paul mccartney and john lennon first meet? stay tuned for the answer when we come back. >> welcome back. the answer to the millionaire question of the day is in a church. joining me now is francis salazar from patchogue, new york. nice to see you, francis. >> great to be here. meredith: special ed teacher. >> thank you. meredith: brought along your beautiful wife terry who's in the audience. nice to see terry. and the big news here is that the two of you are expecting a baby, which is very exciting. so we got to start sprucing up the nursery. gotta start sprucing up that nursery. >> absolutely. that's what we're hoping for. meredith: well, i hope so, too, and a cruise wouldn't be bad either. >> ha ha. yeah. absolutely. meredith: so let's take a look at the money in your round 1. computer, please randomize the money and the questions. now let's see where your disney cruise question is. oh, way down low. whoa. all right, francis, are you ready? >> i am ready. meredith: then let's play "millionaire." [cheering] according to a 201
where did paul mccartney and john lennon first meet? stay tuned for the answer when we come back. >> welcome back. the answer to the millionaire question of the day is in a church. joining me now is francis salazar from patchogue, new york. nice to see you, francis. >> great to be here. meredith: special ed teacher. >> thank you. meredith: brought along your beautiful wife terry who's in the audience. nice to see terry. and the big news here is that the two of you are...
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john paul ii took wonderful walks here. benedict xvi i'm told is a much, much more private man, expected to spend a long time in his rooms here. he'll be here for about two months while they restore his home at the vatican where he will eventually spend the rest of his life. guys? >> all right, becky anderson, thank you very much. we'll check back in with you. >>> here to help us walk through today is monsignor rick hi hillgartner. i wanted to walk through what is going to happen today when the pope meets with the cardinals. can you walk us through that? >> sure. >> yesterday in st. peter's square there were upwards of 50,000 people or more giving that public witness. this will be the most with his closest collaborators over the years. the pope's personal collaborators are the bishops throughout the world and in a particular way it's the cardinals standing at the heart of those, many of the cardinals of the people who workday to day in the vatican who work with the pope on a regular basis. who see him week in, week out. the
john paul ii took wonderful walks here. benedict xvi i'm told is a much, much more private man, expected to spend a long time in his rooms here. he'll be here for about two months while they restore his home at the vatican where he will eventually spend the rest of his life. guys? >> all right, becky anderson, thank you very much. we'll check back in with you. >>> here to help us walk through today is monsignor rick hi hillgartner. i wanted to walk through what is going to happen...
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paul the second and they're just the same they're they're all cookie cutter guys and they're going to do the same thing that those two have done but what could be done is one they could be open and honest and reveal all the personnel files of all the credibly accused priests they could publish on their website the names. of all the credibly accused priests not just those that are living but also those or dead. economic troubles of british families is beginning to take its toll on the health of children school people's diets suffering from the . family report. also coming up the latest developments in the case of us only private bradley manning accused of highly sensitive leaks as washington summons a navy seal to prove his own legs actions aided al qaeda. wealthy british soil it's time to. market. come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines kaiser reports. michiru. cretaceous free. free. free. free. free. free blank video for your media project free media r.t. dot com. welcome back here
paul the second and they're just the same they're they're all cookie cutter guys and they're going to do the same thing that those two have done but what could be done is one they could be open and honest and reveal all the personnel files of all the credibly accused priests they could publish on their website the names. of all the credibly accused priests not just those that are living but also those or dead. economic troubles of british families is beginning to take its toll on the health of...
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paul the second and they're just the same they're they're all cookie cutter guys and they're going to do the same thing that those two but what could be done is one they could be open and honest and reveal all the personnel files of all the credibly accused priests they could publish on their website the names. of all the credibly accused priests not just those that are living but also those are dead. later in the program we report on the latest developments in the case of the u.s. army private bradley manning accused of hiding sensitive leaks as washington someone's a navy seal. there are twelve cities in the united states in which half of the people with hiv aids lives within a year of my dad no sense of he turned over six to two percent of those patients i diagnosed with this is a problem that frankly is substantially preventable but was not the big elephant in the room and nobody wanted to talk about they were really good public health campaigns that people were really focused on this problem you certainly should be able have a lot less. suffering. wealthy british. market . find o
paul the second and they're just the same they're they're all cookie cutter guys and they're going to do the same thing that those two but what could be done is one they could be open and honest and reveal all the personnel files of all the credibly accused priests they could publish on their website the names. of all the credibly accused priests not just those that are living but also those are dead. later in the program we report on the latest developments in the case of the u.s. army private...
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anderson, there was nothing like the crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died and then when the next conclave elected pope benedict xvi. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics, but he's considered more of a professor, more of a theologian, more of an intellectual, someone who was more of an intellectual than pope john paul. >> any idea when the conclave will begin to select the new pope? they're all there. >> reporter: they are pretty much all here, and they had a time to gather at his resignation, which was announced a couple weeks ago. they're not all here yet, and we understand that the first formal meeting of all the cardinals will happen on monday, and only then will they decide what date to actually establish the first day of the conclave, and at that point those cardinals who are eligible to vote will start their secret deliberations. we're not sure when. we're told somewhere potentially around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> christiane, i appreciate it. >>> he's been stripped of public duties after thousands of pages, th
anderson, there was nothing like the crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died and then when the next conclave elected pope benedict xvi. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics, but he's considered more of a professor, more of a theologian, more of an intellectual, someone who was more of an intellectual than pope john paul. >> any idea when the conclave will begin to select the new pope? they're all there. >> reporter: they are...
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there was nothing like the kind of crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics but he is considered more of an intellectual and somebody who is never emotional like john paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy in cardinal mahoney's role in electing of the new pope. he has been stripped after thousands of pages revealed his role in shielding priests from justice. the nauseating story from 360's gary tuckman. >> reporter: the first time is when he helped bring them to the ashch diocese of los angeles. the ashch bishop of mexico city wanted him gon
there was nothing like the kind of crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics but he is considered more of an intellectual and somebody who is never emotional like john paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the...
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he was so close to john paul, too, that he took him on plane rides with him and did everything he could to support him. when the news came out about what a horrendous person he was ratzinger said he has done so much for the church, how can we attack him? by good for the church, he meant that he raised lots of money. he raised more money than anyone else in the church. he was close toed bloody dictator of peru, who tortured and killed over a thousand priests, nuns, and lay workers during his reign. and so, that connection is there. it cannot be erased. and ratzinger it stops at his desk. >> cenk: it sounds like you're describing a fundamentally corrupt church, would you go that far? >> absolutely. journalists are doing that. every day there is a new scandal. as a theologian, i see this, in fact, as good news. i think the holy spirit has given us two sk. >> joy: smatic folks and we can start the church all over again. we can go back to the real teachings of jesus. it's about love and justice. it's not complicated. and we don't need the paraphernalia of the basilicas on our backs. we can m
he was so close to john paul, too, that he took him on plane rides with him and did everything he could to support him. when the news came out about what a horrendous person he was ratzinger said he has done so much for the church, how can we attack him? by good for the church, he meant that he raised lots of money. he raised more money than anyone else in the church. he was close toed bloody dictator of peru, who tortured and killed over a thousand priests, nuns, and lay workers during his...
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john paul ii is very much a more engaging pope and not as much as a private man as benedict xvi is. he will leave here tomorrow around this time, by helicopter, and he will go to castle gandolpho and come back to the vatican in his retirement. he'll go into isolation, he's chosen that for himself. the vatican garden cottage as it were, it's not particularly comfortable, i'm told, i haven't been in, but it is somewhere he can spend his twilight years as it were, and he's 85 years old, let's remember that, in peace and reflecting on where he is, who he is, and how far he's come. today was very much an occasion of reflection for the 100,000 or so people who were here, brooke. it was absolutely amazing. we were up there, right at vatican city there and it was a sense of quiet, even though there are over 100,000 people there, so i say, a time of reflection and peace for so many of the faith. brooke? >> and history being made and now less than 24 hours from now, where you are in rome, becky anderson, my thanks to you. >>> back at home, we talked about this last hour, the automatic blunt f
john paul ii is very much a more engaging pope and not as much as a private man as benedict xvi is. he will leave here tomorrow around this time, by helicopter, and he will go to castle gandolpho and come back to the vatican in his retirement. he'll go into isolation, he's chosen that for himself. the vatican garden cottage as it were, it's not particularly comfortable, i'm told, i haven't been in, but it is somewhere he can spend his twilight years as it were, and he's 85 years old, let's...
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>> i -- i sort of have to go back to what john paul ii said. he really issued a document that makes it of faith. so i'm a man of faith and i'm a man of the church. i don't think that's going to happen. but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't develop more and more opportunities for women to serve because they come with so much -- so much strength. not just goodness. so much strength. we need a lot of that today. >> faith and hope spring eternal. >> amen. >> cardinal mccarrick, thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you. >> back to you, suzanne and michael. >> thanks, christiane, fascinating discussion. we're going to take a quick break and be right back on cnn. [ tissue box ] he said nasal congestion. yeah...i heard him. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. >>> to mexico now where authorities have slaughtered more than two million chickens. they are actually worried about a bird flu outbreak taking place there. >> yeah. bird flu again. almost three dozen farms w
>> i -- i sort of have to go back to what john paul ii said. he really issued a document that makes it of faith. so i'm a man of faith and i'm a man of the church. i don't think that's going to happen. but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't develop more and more opportunities for women to serve because they come with so much -- so much strength. not just goodness. so much strength. we need a lot of that today. >> faith and hope spring eternal. >> amen. >> cardinal...
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he's very different from his predecessor john paul ii who was all about hugs and embracing. yes, this was a day of rare emotion. you saw a lot of smiles as he went around st. peter's square in that pope mmobile to receive the final farewells. he spoke about how he had so much joy, he said, in the church in his eight years of reign but he also talked about how there had been difficult times. he said it had been fair from easy on occasion. he talk tbd church coming across agitated waters and finding themselves facing different directions of the wind. obviously he was talking about various crises and issues that the pope has to deal with and the church has to deal with,al those close to home who have rocked and buffeted those for years, most significantly the priests who have preyed upon young boy and an effort to hold those accountable, whose who did it and those who shielded the priests from scandal and accountability. all that is going on at the same time. more matterly as we await the conclave to convene and await the next pope, everybody's waiting. that's the next great ex
he's very different from his predecessor john paul ii who was all about hugs and embracing. yes, this was a day of rare emotion. you saw a lot of smiles as he went around st. peter's square in that pope mmobile to receive the final farewells. he spoke about how he had so much joy, he said, in the church in his eight years of reign but he also talked about how there had been difficult times. he said it had been fair from easy on occasion. he talk tbd church coming across agitated waters and...
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he took a lot of hits from john paul ii. i see him now calmer than ever. he showed a little emotion from sunday. not so much today. a beautiful speech. one was precisely about the weather. as mentioned before. he said we're in the middle of winter. let's thank god fort beautiful day we have. >> this was stunning in terms of timing and opened up a wrath of conspiracy theories, some saying this dossier containing allegations of corruption among some members of the church body. do you confidently say this pope's decision has to do with his health and health alone? >> i think we should take him on his word. people sell novels, millions of copies with conspiracy theories, he's repeated now on several occasions. and you see it. i watched him over the last eight years. i was very nervous as christmas, because i got a very good seat. you can tell he is slowing down. >> despite exhaustion and rigor of the job. do you think there's scandals? >> there's no doubt that the job has a lot of weight. it's not just precisely that you have to travel and you have to do this
he took a lot of hits from john paul ii. i see him now calmer than ever. he showed a little emotion from sunday. not so much today. a beautiful speech. one was precisely about the weather. as mentioned before. he said we're in the middle of winter. let's thank god fort beautiful day we have. >> this was stunning in terms of timing and opened up a wrath of conspiracy theories, some saying this dossier containing allegations of corruption among some members of the church body. do you...
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paul ii. i think there's that sense of a new, fresh start for the church. >> you say that the cardinals in some ways want to distance themselves from the scandals that are surrounding the church but how do they do this when a cardinal like roger mahoney of los angeles is allowed to vote in the conclave for a new pope at the very time he is accused of protecting priests of sexually abused children? >> reporter: yes, well this is of course one of the major scandals that has overshadowed the church in the last 30 years, the last ten years specifically this has come out and i think it's one of the things which they will be very aware of in choosing the new pope it will have to be somebody who is able both to continue to monitor the consequences of that scandal, and at the same time bring a new sense of direction and a new idea of the future of the church to help people heal and kind of move away from that scandal. >> delia gallagher thank you, and we will see you in rome soon. >> a senior white ho
paul ii. i think there's that sense of a new, fresh start for the church. >> you say that the cardinals in some ways want to distance themselves from the scandals that are surrounding the church but how do they do this when a cardinal like roger mahoney of los angeles is allowed to vote in the conclave for a new pope at the very time he is accused of protecting priests of sexually abused children? >> reporter: yes, well this is of course one of the major scandals that has...
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benedict xvi was different from john paul ii in many ways. so if we mean things bigger than issues, if we mean tonality and approach and personality, those kinds of things, i think it's reasonable to think there might be changes on those scores. >> john allen and sister donna, thank you for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. while cardinal roger mahoney is in rome to pick the next pope back in the united states he's accused of protecting pedophile priests. anderson cooper investigates tonight on cnn. >>> back in the united states tensions are rising at the nation's airports, with the government's forced spending cuts due to kick in two days from now airports big and small are bracing for delays and more headaches for air travelers. cnn's tori dunnin explains. >> reporter: sun air flight 2455 d carrying three passengers is headed for nearby dulles airport. >> see you later. >> reporter: a half-hour trip. it's one of up to six commercial flights a day. >> roger runway 2-7, taxi way delta. >> reporter: today there's a controller in th
benedict xvi was different from john paul ii in many ways. so if we mean things bigger than issues, if we mean tonality and approach and personality, those kinds of things, i think it's reasonable to think there might be changes on those scores. >> john allen and sister donna, thank you for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. while cardinal roger mahoney is in rome to pick the next pope back in the united states he's accused of protecting pedophile priests. anderson cooper...
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it wasn't the high school pep rally feel you used to get with john paul 2ii. benedict sets a restrained and calm tone and that was reflected in the crowd as well. >> before the mass he spoke about how he's going to support the church once he retires but are they figuring out the details what have his role is going to be, so unusual to have a pope who is still emeritus, who is still alive and a new pope will be elected. >> yeah, that's right. this really is an utterly new situation. what benedict has said publicly in a meeting with the clergy of rome last week he intends to be hidden from the world. you're not going to see him giving tv interviews or hitting the lecture iris cut. for the most part i doubt he will be heard or seen from again. however, inevitably soledad the question presents itself even if it is not his desire to exercise influence on the next pope, there are still going to be people who are going to read everything the new pope does in light of what the old pope might have done, presented with a similar situation. the vatican may try to discour
it wasn't the high school pep rally feel you used to get with john paul 2ii. benedict sets a restrained and calm tone and that was reflected in the crowd as well. >> before the mass he spoke about how he's going to support the church once he retires but are they figuring out the details what have his role is going to be, so unusual to have a pope who is still emeritus, who is still alive and a new pope will be elected. >> yeah, that's right. this really is an utterly new situation....
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especially since the last pope, one that we knew growing up, pope john paul ii, literally allowed the world to watch him die. that was part of the process of sharing life, willie. >> yeah. this pope says he's old and fragile, unable to travel, but you make a good point about the previous pope. john, we've heard many times now that the next pope, whoever that may be, will have to confront the sexual abuse scandal, puts it mildly. that has consumed the roman catholic church for so long. what will that mean exactly? what will a pope do? a new pope in terms of confronting that? will he come out immediately in an opening address? will he purge some of the priests? what do you think that pope will do at least from a public relations point of view to change the perception? >> well, it's the perception and the reality. it's the most disturbing thing about any self-protecting institution. you see this as the catholic chump has, for decade upon decade now, put its own institutional survival and its own institutional dignity, really, ahead of the interests of the weakest people in its care, its
especially since the last pope, one that we knew growing up, pope john paul ii, literally allowed the world to watch him die. that was part of the process of sharing life, willie. >> yeah. this pope says he's old and fragile, unable to travel, but you make a good point about the previous pope. john, we've heard many times now that the next pope, whoever that may be, will have to confront the sexual abuse scandal, puts it mildly. that has consumed the roman catholic church for so long....
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john paul ii was the pope of de television and the traveling pope. pope benedict xvi has been called the pope of the internet. the pope of the rich in word. his teachings are so simple yet profound. i would encourage people just to read what he has written himself. he has a marvelous series on jesus of nazareth three books in a 3 part series. just very simple and yet very profound. what do congress look for? i asked that of cardinal dolan yesterday. his response was weatherman knee things are kneaded, many, many things, one of the first priorities of the cardinal he believes will be to find somebody who can give the new impetus to the church and strength and vigor and preaching president gospel of jesus with happiness and with conviction. and conviction not only of his own but being able to give conventioning reasons -- convincing reasons to the world no doubt the papacy is a different office or role than it was in the past because of communication. to have a pope who can communicate with that conviction to a world i believe is starving for real reas
john paul ii was the pope of de television and the traveling pope. pope benedict xvi has been called the pope of the internet. the pope of the rich in word. his teachings are so simple yet profound. i would encourage people just to read what he has written himself. he has a marvelous series on jesus of nazareth three books in a 3 part series. just very simple and yet very profound. what do congress look for? i asked that of cardinal dolan yesterday. his response was weatherman knee things are...
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one of the things we saw extraordinarily in the final days of pope john paul and for the election of this pope, was the number of people who came to st. peter's square who said i'm atheist, i'min agnostic. i'm drawn by the history. i'm drawn by the tradition that there is a person in the world when is supposed to stand for the good things, for the power of this role. so there we see him in the popemobile making what, as we heard from ann thompson, will be two rounds. i know you've seen this before, father barron. it is a unique experience. >> it is that indeed. i always think of pope from popeye. he's the father. and you're right. i think it goes beyond the catholic church. you're looking at the most important figure in the world from a symbolic standpoint. >> george, give me your thoughts as you watch the pope make his final round in his popemobile. >> chris, i'm actually thinking about our time together here in rome eight years ago. i believe it was you who asked me how i felt seeing joseph ratzinger come out on the logia of st. peter's, who i had known at that point for some 17 ye
one of the things we saw extraordinarily in the final days of pope john paul and for the election of this pope, was the number of people who came to st. peter's square who said i'm atheist, i'min agnostic. i'm drawn by the history. i'm drawn by the tradition that there is a person in the world when is supposed to stand for the good things, for the power of this role. so there we see him in the popemobile making what, as we heard from ann thompson, will be two rounds. i know you've seen this...
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it was designed by wisconsin congressman paul ryan. remember him? and of course it had cuts to programs like food stamps and medicaid instead of military spending. the bill's dead. it died when the 112th congress came to an end. here is another dandy that they say they passed. this was passed as part of john boehner's failed plan b fiscal cliff package. this one is also dead. and so let's recap. the republicans have exactly zero bills in this session, the 113th congress to avoid what we're facing on friday, sequestration. the house needs to introduce a bill before it can go to the senate. but john boehner is too busy saying tough guy words and blaming democrats. i think the secretary of homeland security summed it up best yesterday during a question-and-answer session. >> what impact would sequestration, were it to happen, have on the department? >> you know, i've been in government and public service a long time, 20 years almost. i have never seen anything like this. >> no one has ever seen anything like this because it makes absolutely no sense. t
it was designed by wisconsin congressman paul ryan. remember him? and of course it had cuts to programs like food stamps and medicaid instead of military spending. the bill's dead. it died when the 112th congress came to an end. here is another dandy that they say they passed. this was passed as part of john boehner's failed plan b fiscal cliff package. this one is also dead. and so let's recap. the republicans have exactly zero bills in this session, the 113th congress to avoid what we're...
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john paul ii's is in his casket. in this case i guess they will hold on to it. they put it in a satchel and it will eventually be buried with pope benedict but he will no longer be pope. >> now the cardinals during the preconclave period are not supposed to be campaigning but i would imagine that is what they're doing, fast and furiously, right? >> well, it's a quiet campaign. it's kind of a meet and greet. they look at each other from afar. i remember going to a horse auction when i was a kid. bear with me here. when you go to a horse auction you look at the horses' legs, their mouth, you read the press, you talk to the trainers but you don't talk to the horses. that's sort of the approach. at least that's what they're telling me. they don't go to the man they're directly thinking about who might be a candidate, they talk to friends, they talk to people who know them and begin to form an impression. is this the guy we need now. and that's how it happens. then they go into the conclave and vote. the two-thirds majority, first man to get to the two-thirds majorit
john paul ii's is in his casket. in this case i guess they will hold on to it. they put it in a satchel and it will eventually be buried with pope benedict but he will no longer be pope. >> now the cardinals during the preconclave period are not supposed to be campaigning but i would imagine that is what they're doing, fast and furiously, right? >> well, it's a quiet campaign. it's kind of a meet and greet. they look at each other from afar. i remember going to a horse auction when...
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we didn't have quite this deluge of information 2005 when pope john paul died and as we watched the election of pope benedict xvi. obviously it had already come out in the united states and there are lots of reports but hadn't exploded in europe. i'm talking to vatican insiders and watchers who say this may explode in other parts of the world as well, that it is a bit of a ticking timebomb. in that regard, it is different. clearly the church is really -- they just simply can't believe that all these headlines are happening the very final week of pope benedict's reign. so they're desperately trying to get out from under this deluge of bad news and hope at least the next two days are going to be much more devoted to the final religious tasks of pope benedict. tomorrow he has his final general audience. they've handed out tens of thousands of tickets. st. peter's square behind me is going to be filled. there's going to be the traditional popemobile circular around st. peter's square. then the gradual ceremonial steps that are going to be taken before pope benedict xvi leave. but unprecedented i
we didn't have quite this deluge of information 2005 when pope john paul died and as we watched the election of pope benedict xvi. obviously it had already come out in the united states and there are lots of reports but hadn't exploded in europe. i'm talking to vatican insiders and watchers who say this may explode in other parts of the world as well, that it is a bit of a ticking timebomb. in that regard, it is different. clearly the church is really -- they just simply can't believe that all...
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i mean, these cardinals have been appointed by pope benedict xvi and john paul ii so i don't think we'll see a situation of conflict. >> pelley: why can't the vatican seem to settle on a date for the conclave to begin to select the new pope? >> well, part of it is logistical. we have to wait until the pope actually leaves, which will happen on thursday. and then on friday we begin the period of the sette vacantis the vacant seat. and this is all regulated within the vatican rules and they will need time, of course, to set up the sistine chapel, to set up the logistical aspects of holding a conclave within itself. and then they will need some time to meet in order to discuss exactly who their preferred candidate will be. so i think if we're looking at a week, that's moving pretty quickly for the vatican. >> pelley: delia gallagher in st. peter's square in rome thank you so much. what's behind an increase in teen driving deaths? the supreme court takes up a challenge to a landmark civil rights law. and a hot air balloon tragedy when the "cbs evening news" continues. from washington. washin
i mean, these cardinals have been appointed by pope benedict xvi and john paul ii so i don't think we'll see a situation of conflict. >> pelley: why can't the vatican seem to settle on a date for the conclave to begin to select the new pope? >> well, part of it is logistical. we have to wait until the pope actually leaves, which will happen on thursday. and then on friday we begin the period of the sette vacantis the vacant seat. and this is all regulated within the vatican rules...